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Le topic des M113 au summum. Et des Mercedes-Benz.
thamomo007 Le sam 23 sept 2017 10h24
ah ok, puisque phase 2 ils ont récup la cléé des e46. :ouin:

La clé est bien c'est juste qu'au final ca coute plus cher quand elle déconne que juste une pile. (en plus elle ne s'ouvre pas)
Matt Le sam 23 sept 2017 10h28
Je pensais que tu le savais vu que t'en as une ;)
Dernière édition le 23/09/2017 à 10:29 par Matt, édité 1 fois
thamomo007 Le sam 23 sept 2017 11h44
ma série 5 c'est une phase2 de 2002, j'ai la clée des e46 ;)
Mr.Ele Le sam 23 sept 2017 11h59
Il me semble avoir lu qqpart ou vu un tuto pour ouvrir et remplacer la batterie.
Sur la mienne elle fonctionne nickel mais la portée est ridicule, il faut être à 5m de la voiture
thamomo007 Le sam 23 sept 2017 12h01
Oui enfin faut couper la clef à la dremel et soit recoller soit acheter un boitier sur ebay
Mr.Ele Le sam 23 sept 2017 12h02
Je n'ai qu'une clé, je te laisse essayer en premier, tu as 4 chances toi:D
thamomo007 Le sam 23 sept 2017 12h08
Elle marche je ne touche pas :)
duduche60 Le sam 23 sept 2017 12h08
http://www.klaasdepoel.com/mercedes-showroom/mb/w210-e55-t-amg-59000-km/9f847d5ace34ef47fcdbeb35f20111dd/ (Mercedes W210 - E55 T AMG 59.000 KM  - KLAAS DE POEL)
gilgp Le sam 23 sept 2017 12h23
ca c'est du dossier détaillé :good:
carpe.diem Le sam 23 sept 2017 13h56
Raaaaah :love:
vroum45 Le dim 24 sept 2017 07h23
Sexy MILF en bas résille :love:
jl1970 Le lun 9 oct 2017 13h42
https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1316557161.htm?ca=20_s (Mercedes c55 amg Voitures Morbihan - leboncoin.fr)

elle aura bien tournée cette Benz :)
Carpe.diem Le lun 9 oct 2017 13h44
On est bien niveau ortho la.
ctncrsp Le lun 9 oct 2017 13h45
Vendeur: "bmw"
Adam1 Le mar 10 oct 2017 00h45
duduche60 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 18h50
https://www.autoleitner.nl/nl/index/aanbod/1505854217-1995-7-e-60-amg-w124-kopen (Op zoek naar een 1995 Mercedes E 60 AMG W124 Signaalrood bij een betrouwbaar autobedrijf in Nederland? | autoleitner.nl)
thamomo007 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 19h03
weber-dc40 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 19h37
Gilgp Le jeu 12 oct 2017 19h44
Pouah sa maman :oh:

Comme ont dit au bled

Elle est chdida :love:
duduche60 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 20h16
Je ne sais pas si vous avez regardé les 60 et quelques photos mais tout est neuf ou semble l'être là dessus :oh: :love:
thamomo007 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 20h21
Ouai elle n a jamais roulé sous la pluie :love:
Carpe.diem Le jeu 12 oct 2017 20h47
Toujours roulé au 98
thamomo007 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 21h26
Aussi oui :D
Mbfan94 Le jeu 12 oct 2017 22h00
https://www.autoleitner.nl/en/index/cars-for-sale/1506884292-1991-7-500e-w124-for-sale (1991 Mercedes 500E W124 Blauwzwart metallic for sale at Auto Leitner | autoleitner.nl)

Ils ont aussi un 500E magnifique

23000km (ou miles???) :oh: :oh: :oh:

et une SL70 :love: :love: :love: :love:

https://www.autoleitner.nl/en/index/cars-for-sale/1506974606-1996-7-sl-70-amg-roadster-r129-for-sale (1996 Mercedes SL 70 AMG Roadster R129 Briljantzilver metallic for sale at Auto Leitner | autoleitner.nl)

Sans compter des pépites sublimes d'autres marques!!!!
Carpe.diem Le jeu 12 oct 2017 22h06
Leitner, c'est l'enfer sur terre.
Mbfan94 Le ven 13 oct 2017 07h49

Dommage qu'elle ne soit qu'en miniature cette photo !!! :love: :love: :love:

L'ancienne Catherine Zeta Johnes d'un membre du forum (dont je ne me souvient plus du nom dsl) c'etait une 60 ou une 70??
Carpe.diem Le ven 13 oct 2017 07h51
Une 6.0.
thamomo007 Le ven 13 oct 2017 08h09
elle est toujours à vendre si ca intéresse :D
Mbfan94 Le mer 18 oct 2017 10h17

https://drive-my.com/en/test-drive/item/1729-mercedes-benz-s63-amg-w222-series-s-class-vs-mercedes-benz-450sel-6-9-w116-and-mercedes-benz-560sel-w126.html (?)

Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG W222-series S-Class vs Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 W116 and Mercedes-Benz 560SEL W126

Spotlight – new Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG W222-series S-Class vs Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 W116 and Mercedes-Benz 560SEL W126. Mountain movers – with over 17.800cc and 1155bhp between them, these super saloons demonstrate that there is far more to the legend that is the Mercedes S-class than just luxury and comfort.

Isn’t it fascinating how car companies can go through great change and release new models that put an intriguing twist on decades of heritage, yet somehow retain the core values of their ancestors.

When the current 222-series S-Class was unveiled last year, hopes were high that it would follow the form of its predecessors and set the benchmark in its segment, pushing boundaries with new technologies that will eventually find their way to the C-Class, E-Class and even some smaller models. The car delivered on the promises of its maker, and so it came as little surprise that the S-Class was given the 2014 World Luxury Car award. Where does this leave the S63 AMG, then?

In my book, it is the world’s best luxury car - with an extra sporting edge. The new, V12 powered S65 AMG is arguably the ultimate model in the range, but the S-Class and the V8 have history. Indeed, 12-cylinder power did not stir the grand four-door Mercedes until 1991 in the form of the 140-series 600SEL.

W116 vs W126 - face to face

Their concept is very similar, but almost four decades separate these Mercedes. This takes nothing away from today’s photoshoot, however. Here we have gathered three generations of S-Class (116, 126, and 222) with their respective range’s most powerful V8, to celebrate over four decades of one of the best known car names in the business. Eagle-eyed readers might recognize the Cypress Green V116 450SEL 6.9 as it featured in the July 2009 issue. Back then the car was based in the UK, but soon after it was sent to South Africa. It changed hands once more, and now forms part of a Mercedes-Benz aficionado’s collection. He is also the owner of this pristine V126 560SEL.


The 6.9’s clock is still a few hundred miles short of 30,000, which surely makes it one of the lowest mileage examples in the world. The interior, at first sight, looks simplistic. But turn the key and suddenly a few lights reveal themselves below the speedometer and rev counter. The dashboard has a solid feel and structure to it. The air conditioning system is situated above the Becker Mexico radio, while the speedometer, which is marked in both miles and kilometres, immediately reminds you of the car’s British background.


The driver’s pew is comfortable, while the carpet covering the transmission tunnel and footwells affirms the cabin’s cosy nature. The dashboard is remarkably shallow, finishing not far behind the A-pillars, so the front occupants have ample room ahead of them, which contributes to the interior’s roomy feel.

The fact the rev counter’s redline starts at around 5,200rpm, maximum power (282bhp) arrives at 4,250rpm and maximum torque. Should you trim your speed before entering a bend, you will be surprised at the level of composure the 6.9 displays (405lb ft) is produced at 3,000rpm, suggests the manner in which one should drive to extract the best behaviour from the three-speed auto equipped 6.9.1 press the throttle pedal to the floor several times and marvel at the way this near 40-year old limousine just lifts its nose ever so slightly (thanks to the hydro-pneumatic suspension) as it leaps down the road. Should you have deleted the 6.9 badge on the bootlid in the 1970s, you might have surprised a few sports car drivers of the time with this ultimate sleeper. With its M100 engine code, the 6.9’s V8 was based on the already monstrous 6,332cc unit used in the 600 Grosser and 300SEL 6.3.

This car’s Michelin 215/70VR14, steel belted radial tyres are period correct and were actually acquired only a few years ago. Pushing this older saloon through corners almost seems wrong but, keeping the car’s weight in mind, should you trim your speed before a bend, you will be surprised at the level of composure this near two-tonne car displays. There is more body movement than in a modern car, but this sense of flowing with the road adds distinct character and appeal to the 6.9’s drive.

Parking the car, switching off the engine and listening to the rear aerial retract into the bodywork, I jump out of the driver’s seat and open the rear door. As I sit down, I can feel and hear how the springs deform and shorten under my weight. Head, shoulder and legroom are all in good supply and 1 imagine three adults would not encroach on each other’s private space too much, something dignitaries of the day would have appreciated.


Next to the green 6.9, the white, 1990 560SEL looks a little less special. However, it has a hidden weapon in the form of its alloy, 5.5-litre M117 V8, the launch of this flagship saloon coinciding with 126-series S-Class’s facelift in 1985. This being a post September 1987, non catalyst example, it left the factory with 296bhp and 336lb ft torque, meaning a 6.8-second run to 62mph and a 155mph top speed. As on the 6.9, Mercedes granted the 560SEL hydro-pneumatic level control suspension.

Open the SEL’s door and a familiar cabin design and instrument layout welcomes you, but because the V126 followed in the footsteps of the V116 (‘V’ denoting a long-wheelbase model), there are a number of changes and upgrades seen in the trim and buttons, and the general layout, which appears more cohesive and less cluttered. Despite having 10,000 more miles on the clock, the SEL’s interior feels even sturdier and more solid than the 6.9’s, while the dashboard is similarly shallow, so front occupants still have a serious amount of room. Space for rear passengers is also similar to that in the 6.9, although headroom is down a touch, possibly because of this car’s sunroof.


The rev counter’s 6,000rpm redline suggests a more technologically advanced engine, while the transmission has also gained an additional forward gear. However, you should not think the M117 motor needs more revs to get into its stride because it is still in the lower two-thirds of the rev range where this V8 is happiest. The ride quality is equally impressive, although there is an additional layer of control to the way the 126 handles compared to the 116.

The owner bought this three-pointed star in 2001 with only 18,000 miles on the odometer.

Since then, he has added 19,000 miles by taking the old S-Class on regular journeys and participating inMercedes-Benz Club South Africa’s long distance roadtrips, the wide and open roads of South Africa perfectly matched to this flagship limousine.

As beautiful and imposing as the V116 and V126 are, it is the W222 S63 AMG that gets the most attention - after all, it is the top V8 model of a new generation. Its age, or rather lack thereof, is visible in the exterior design. The body looks bolder and stronger, and on closer inspection of the front, you notice the camera, sensors and radar system for the cruise control. In terms of technology, the S63 AMG is simply on another planet to its predecessors.
Surprisingly, the AMG’s front quarters don’t feel as roomy as those of the earlier generations. The thick and high transmission tunnel divides the cabin in two, while the large digital screens on the dashboard take some getting used to. But once the driver’s door has sucked itself shut, you are encased in a virtually soundless cocoon. The soft seat engulfs your body while your head is cushioned by a wonderfully soft headrest. The flowing lines of the dashboard and lack of any unnecessary buttons have a visually soothing effect on both the driver and passengers.

In terms of engine size, the 560SEL and S63 AMG are close - 5,547cc versus 5,461cc respectively. However, two and a half decades of research and development mean that from the moment the key is turned in the AMG, the similarities end. The S63’s V8 biturbo engages with a distinctive snort from the AMG exhaust system, yet despite this early drama, the soft throttle response in Comfort mode means moving away from rest is utterly smooth.

With 577bhp/664lb ft torque, it isn’t long before things liven up, though. You cant help but smile at the dual personality of the S63AMG W222.

Using only 2,000rpm, you will make surprisingly quick and effortless progress, but far greater potential lies higher up the rev range. Switch the transmission and suspension to Sport mode, and immediately the car firms up while the seven-speed automatic responds by dropping a gear or two, encouraging you to place your fingertips on the metal paddleshifters behind the steering wheel.


Bury the throttle pedal into the carpet at low speed and the ESP system kicks in as the tyres struggle to deploy all that torque to the road. Select the next gear and the onslaught simply continues. Tackle a few corners and the S63’s air suspension (tweaked by AMG and running with Mercedes’ road scanning Magic Body Control technology) keeps the body amazingly flat. It would be somewhat unfair to expect a car of this size to instil confidence in the driver on a mountain road, but the 222-series S63 AMG does so with aplomb.

Rest your arm on the heated, Affalterbach badged armrest, adopt a more laid-back seating position and settle into a fast (ish) cruise and you can’t help but smile at the dual personality of the S63 AMG. Although it is light years ahead of the 450SEL 6.9 and 560SEL, it shares a common theme, and the owner of the latter two agrees. “They were simply the supercars of their time,” he said.

The fact the rear-wheel drive S63 AMG will accelerate from 0-62mph in 4.4 seconds makes it worthy of inclusion in the story of the fastest S-Classes, big saloons that have looked sports cars dead in the eye for generations.

The 5,157mm long S63 is the heaviest and most powerful car here.

The AMG exhaust system is designed to thrill all within earshot

The W222 S-Class AMG remoulds the fast limousine genre

A relatively low redline for the V8 S-Class of the 1970s.

Less weight makes the less pokey 560SEL a 6.9 beater.

The S63’s digital dials lack the character of their forbears.

You should not think the 560SEL's V8 needs more revs to get into its stride

The 126 is lighter and more aerodynamic than the 116, the SEL measuring 5,160mm.

Optional light alloys, the 215/70VR14 tyres are standard.


Mercedes only made the 6.9 in 5,060mm long-wheelbase form.

Each car here has eight cylinders but offers a unique and wholly successful take on the super saloon theme.

Figures for a standard 450SEL 6.9. a 1990 560SEL as pictured, and a standard S63AMG; fuel consumption for the 450SEL 6.9 determined at % of top speed (not more than 110km/h 68mph) plus 10 percent, for the 560SEL according to EEC urban, and for the S63 AMG according to NEDC combined; top speed of the S63 electronically limited.

Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG W222
Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 W116 (V116)
Mercedes-Benz 560SEL W126 (V126)




M157 5.461cc V8 biturbo

M100 6,834cc V8

M117 5,547cc V8

Max power
577bhp (430kw) @ 5500rpm

282bhp (210kw) @ 4250rpm

296bhp (220kw) @ 5000rpm
Max torque
664lb ft @ 2250-3750rpm

405lb ft @ 3000rpm

336lb ft @ 3750rpm
7-speed auto

3-speed auto

4-speed auto



0-62mph (100km/h)


Top speed
155mph (250km/h)

140mph (225km/h)

155mph (250km/h)


Carpe.diem Le ven 27 oct 2017 15h20
Première panne immobilisante.

La batterie est d'origine :oh:
Gilgp Le ven 27 oct 2017 16h14
tu crois que c'est la batterie ?
Carpe.diem Le ven 27 oct 2017 16h42
C même certain, je viens de la changer. C un m113 gros, ya que ca qui peut lacher.

13 ans la batterie :oh:
Carpe.diem Le ven 27 oct 2017 16h43
Dernière édition le 27/10/2017 à 16:51 par Carpe.diem, édité 1 fois
Mr.Ele Le ven 27 oct 2017 17h33
:good: elle avait le droit
thamomo007 Le ven 27 oct 2017 18h56
Ce qui est génial c'est qu'ensuite aucune batterie aftermarket ne tient à nouveau 13 ans.

Sur la série 5 j'ai aussi changé la batterie d'origine l'année dernière elle était de 2002 :D :good:
duduche60 Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h05
Beau score pour la batterie :good:

En aftermarket on ne peut plus acheter strictement la batterie d'origine ?
maxime56 Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h06
Celle d'origine sur la 325i a tenu 14 ans
Dernière édition le 27/10/2017 à 19:06 par maxime56, édité 1 fois
Carpe.diem Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h08
Si, ds ce cas c'est une bosch
gilgp Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h12
c'est impressionnant les batteries, tout est bien plus éfficient dans une mercedes

Celle du padre, taxi, avec tout l'attirail, les compteurs, les capteurs gps, le Star 7, et le lumineux, 7 ans et elle ne presentait aucun signe de faiblesse, dans une clio, au bout de 4 ans, tu la changes
F7R Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h16
Mon grand père a un Scénic 2 de 2003.
La batterie est d'origine.
gilgp Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h20
c'est faux, un scenic de 2003 est soit a la casse soit en afrique :arg: :D
F7R Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h23
Pas celui la ,

mais c'est un moteur essence :D
Bélial Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h46
Petit HS : je vais essayer de vendre mon cls de papy et je cherche donc des annonces pour lui en donner un prix raisonnable. Bref, je suis tombé là-dessus : https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1326213318.htm?ca=12_s (Cls 500 v8 black series Voitures Bas-Rhin - leboncoin.fr)

Je ris :D
caraddict Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h47
De toute bôté :love:
F7R Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h48
Bélial Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h48
Elle est splendide hein ?
spilner Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h50
Ils en veulent pas en Afrique de ton Scénic 2 je pense :D
Dernière édition le 27/10/2017 à 19:50 par spilner, édité 1 fois
spilner Le ven 27 oct 2017 19h52
Le cache moteur :D :bad:
ctncrsp Le ven 27 oct 2017 20h08
137000km avec les sièges ruinés comme ça ? :bad: :oh: :etourdi:
hob Le ven 27 oct 2017 20h13
Clair elle est morte dedans.:D
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